tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post4383923532946651540..comments2023-07-13T05:51:43.394-05:00Comments on SEEK: Racial ProfilingKGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11282358447700779685noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post-44186857919908087222008-04-02T14:49:00.000-05:002008-04-02T14:49:00.000-05:00I would say that our assumptions, as you said Tim,...I would say that our assumptions, as you said Tim, are often just that. They are often wrong. As a result, they cause us to view people based on things that we often do not know for sure.<BR/><BR/>I agree that a big part is to question our assumptions. I think we should all be doing more of that.<BR/><BR/>I would say that I believe that caution based on experience is OK. I think it is OK to approach people with an internal caution, but with an open mind of optimism. We need to expect the best in people even when are experience reminds us to be prepared for the worst.KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11282358447700779685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post-23541780500432760582008-04-01T19:01:00.000-05:002008-04-01T19:01:00.000-05:00Yes I have categorized someone bu the color of the...Yes I have categorized someone bu the color of their skin and their ethnicity (even someone of my same hue and ethnicity)and yes it was just as wrong when our law enforcement does it.<BR/><BR/>My initial reaction was one of repulsion and disgust and I still hold those feelings yet I know that it is a result of our fallen state.<BR/><BR/>So how do we see others as individuals? I think the easy answer is to look at them as God sees them. Yet, how do we do that practically.<BR/><BR/>I think we first need to stop making assumptions. As simple as this may sound I think it is a legitimate action that each of need to take.<BR/><BR/>That is my initial thought and as I said it is a very simple one. Kevin if your follow - up question was rhetorical I apologize but desired to hear other practical answersthowaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07810796150383583182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post-22495923509550144222008-04-01T10:58:00.000-05:002008-04-01T10:58:00.000-05:00I appreciate the thoughts. I seems that each of yo...I appreciate the thoughts. <BR/><BR/>I seems that each of you (Dave,Tim,Noel) feel as I do that we just know that it isn't right. But there is also some understanding of how it happens because in our own mind we make the same assumptions. <BR/><BR/>I'll admit to being suspect of people based solely on race. White person walking down certain streets in my predominately black neighborhood. I often wonder if they are buying drugs. Or lost. Has anyone else had questions in their head about a person of Arab decent while in an airport?<BR/><BR/>So we know it is wrong. But we see these ideas in our own head too.<BR/><BR/>How do we work towards veiwing people as individuals? Is it wrong to use our experience with people to be cautious in the future of similar situations?KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11282358447700779685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post-7362473129899629472008-04-01T08:48:00.000-05:002008-04-01T08:48:00.000-05:00KG,Great discussion starter. I have to say, that ...KG,<BR/><BR/>Great discussion starter. I have to say, that I can't think of any reason why that is ok. In order to stop someone police have to have (and be able to explain) "Reasonable Suspicion" (That's about all I remember from my Criminal Justics classes.) <BR/><BR/>Because of our racialized society you could make a case that someone of white person being in a black neighborhood or a white person being in a black neighborhood is suspicious. <BR/><BR/>But if you do, you are attacking one of the primary truths of our country and our faith "all are created equal". <BR/><BR/>We can't say that this is ok, the end never justify the means, and we know from history that racial profiling opens up opportunities for racial injustice.Noel Edwin Cisneros Ritterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04886814407625946769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post-24624696073498025462008-03-31T17:01:00.000-05:002008-03-31T17:01:00.000-05:00As long as they are respectful?! As long as there ...As long as they are respectful?! As long as there is a legitimate purpose?!<BR/><BR/>What happened to someone not being judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character. <BR/><BR/>If we have a God who "does not see as man sees ;for man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart" (I Sam. 7b)how can we as His followers condone behavior contrary to His standards.<BR/><BR/>On a more practical front how can begin to give loop holes for blatant racism to continue to rear its ugly head? What is respectful? What is a legitimate reason? What are the standards that are going to be set that says a police officer can use racial profiling for this purpose but not for that. <BR/><BR/>With all respect to your friends and their experiences I too have friends and family who have experienced racial profiling and it has never been productive.thowaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07810796150383583182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6938358004798936071.post-65240143247888306732008-03-31T13:58:00.000-05:002008-03-31T13:58:00.000-05:00my initial thought is to agree with you, Kevin. I...my initial thought is to agree with you, Kevin. It just feels wrong for anyone to make a fundamental assumption about someone simply based on their appearance...<BR/><BR/>however, the way your friends explained it maybe works a little for me... particularly the respect part.<BR/><BR/>i wonder if there is a way to do "racial profiling" in a way that doesn't assume the worst?<BR/><BR/>all that said, it still doesn't "feel" right.David Ruddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12572780147564110421noreply@blogger.com